--- title: "Spiritual Rationality (minimal edition), part 2 of 8" canonical: "https://spiritual-rationality.org" pages: 5 --- *Part 2 of 8, minimal (headings, emphasis and prose only) edition — “Good, Right, & Wrong” through “Culture, Trauma, and Memetics”. Previous: https://spiritual-rationality.org/llms-min-1.txt. Next: https://spiritual-rationality.org/llms-min-3.txt. Whole edition in one file: https://spiritual-rationality.org/llms-min.txt. Index: https://spiritual-rationality.org/llms.txt* # Good, Right, & Wrong There's no way to jump into meta-metaphysics without assuming some kind of metaphysics! I argue later that we mostly don't have frameworks for resolving metaphysical disagreements. Even for those whose metaphysical beliefs don't agree with the assumptions I make here, I still will say that you can notice what distinctions these arguments make, which I'll be coming back to throughout the book. I also think these arguments aren't quite airtight and are more to gesture in a direction. Still I think one broadly speaking can't really "get away with" making arguments, under most systems of metaphysics, that are fallacious under this model. For moral realists in particular, I dig into a weaker form of this argument near the end of this section. There are a variety of contexts in which people invoke concepts like "true" or "right" or "good," whether implicitly or explicitly. Quite a bit of reasoning about this is straightforwardly *incorrect* because conflates different kinds of *rightness*. My stance here is broadly spacious, personal, and flexible. I don't think you ought to feel or perceive what I do. A main thread throughout this book is that what's good and right and beautiful is going to be highly spacious, and allow for a great deal of flexibility in personal temperament, sensitivity, and aspiration. *On the other hand*, there are many claims that are made about what's right which are from what I can tell, metaphysically or factually *wrong*, and I want to criticize them very clearly. ## A sketch of an ontology of rightness I'll say again, this is a sketch, it gestures in a direction, but it's not quite an airtight argument. In addition, this isn't trying to be an exhaustive ontology of "rightness", but is trying to point out one important dimension on which certain kinds of claims can vary. ### Mathematical and logical truth In some sense we can start here with mathematical truth. Theorems are true in a solipsistic universe of meaning, they have no *certain* referent in the physical world, they are "true" only within their axioms and laws of inference. This doesn't make them weak, it in fact makes mathematical truths extremely robust. Mathematical statements are true insofar as they are *logically necessary*, that is, that they *cannot but* be true, as a consequence of their assumptions. Mathematical truths are however often conflated with empirical claims, facts, etc., and I want to distinguish them very clearly. ### Empirical Empirical claims, including either variously "bare facts," models with some assigned credence, or predictions about future events, all of these are constructed with respect to a physical (or at least external, etc.) world. These always have the shape, "one, or some, external objects, have a property or relationship, which (at least in principle) can be observed." Empirical claims need to be *demonstrated* to abide by some logical or mathematical representation. Really there are quite a few subtypes here, which I won't go into. In general, though, I would say that empirical claims are "compound" with respect to mathematical propositions external or physical phenomena. When we talk about things having properties, sets of objects, shapes, numbers, and the like, we're engaging in fundamentally mathematical thinking. Don't be mistaken, empirical claims are completely ordinary. Even though I'm expressing it in technical language, this is all humdrum and everyday: "Joe was upset today", "I broke my foot", "Lettuce isn't very filling," "I think Russia won't invade Ukraine," and so on, these are *empirical* claims. ### Evaluative *Evaluative* claims will either look like "this is (dis)preferred" or "given a specific set of criteria, this is preferred," depending on whether they are stated in absolute or qualified terms. Evaluative claims are built on top of empirical ones, adding an *evaluative function*. Some examples: - "You played the song wrong," or especially "I played a wrong note" - "That was a great move" (in a chess game) - "That business decision was a mistake" - "This painting is gorgeous" - "Avocados are gross" - "AI should not xyz" Let's say, within evaluative claims, there's going to be quite a few subtypes. Among these, at least, we're going to want: - Conformance, whether strict or relative, to a specification - Optimality or fitness under a utility function or a loss function - A utility function or a loss function, for this purpose, is just a function which maps an input, whether a physical object, an idea, a strategy, etc., to a number. We can then rank inputs by the value of their output, eg. a machine which produces more widgets per hour, or which uses less fuel per mile, etc. - One special subtype would also be optimality or fitness of a *strategy*. The concept of an evaluative function is very general; basically, we need to be able to distinguish *the object under consideration* from *the criteria used to evaluate it*. Mathematically, we can use different kinds of functions with different properties for the sake of comparison and choice. In practice, most people don't think of evaluative reasoning mathematically, and might balk at being asked to actually assign a number to some object or another. "Yes, this soup was delicious, but no it's not a matter of numbers!" etc. Nonetheless we can, broadly speaking, say that evaluative judgements conform to some mathematical structure. For example, if between objects A and B, either one is "better," or they are the same, then we have what's called a total ordering over evaluations. (It's important to note that many evaluative judgements define what's called a partial ordering, rather than a total ordering. Eg. if asked which was better, the paintings of Michelangelo or the music of Stevie Wonder, most people would say "apples and oranges!" etc. Some evluative functions are binary and don't define an ordering, and there are probably more nuanced cases as well.) Evaluative claims can be said absolutely, or qualified. An absolute evaluative statement will usually not refer explicitly to an evaluative function. Evaluative claims can on the other hand be qualified in such a way that they become empirical claims which contain reference to an evaluative function. I would claim that it's basically *meaningless* to refer to something as "good" or "bad" without a specified evaluative function. In practice, of course, eliding the evaluative function from an utterance like this is perfectly fine in a lot of contexts, and the point here is not to be the language police. *At least* I would say, we can notice when someone is making an evaluative claim, and notice that they are using an evaluative function, usually implicitly, and surface that distinction. **One cannot make an evaluative statement, and then claim that it is true absolutely and *without reference to an evaluative function.*** If someone says, "this is the best car," we can ask, "good according to what?" Hearing an evaluative statement without an evaluative function should (I'll claim) be as strange as hearing a comparative statement without a point of reference: "this car is 50% better!"—better than what? There is a sense in which one can say "indeed, a kilo weighs more than a pound," and assume that this ought to be basically utterly compelling to any sane person, but one *cannot* in general say "this thing is bad" in quite that same sense. Evaluative claims are often understood to be *matters of taste*, that is, even if the evaluative function is left out, there's an understanding that people will vary and feel quite differently about food, music, etc. Sometimes this is a polite mask over quite a lot of judgement, but often no one has anything at stake, one simply doesn't like licorice, or noir movies, and has such preferences without thinking those things are wrong or bad. On the other hand, the speech act of making an evaluative claim also often serves to, socially, make those who don't use the speaker's evaluative function dumb, low status, or evil, or to do the opposite for those who do. For example: - "Rap music is garbage" - "People who voted for [candidate] are idiots" - "Homosexual sex is an affront on God" - "Modern art is pretentious bullshit" Other kinds of evaluative claims are implicitly claims about strategic choices, broadly speaking. These make claims at the same time about what goals one *should* have (again, what evaluative function one should use) and that a particular strategy rates poorly under their evaluative function. These usually take the form of prescriptions, implicit or explicit. For example: - "Carbs are bad for you" - "You should finish college" - "Regular exercise is what your body needs" - "It's important to learn a second language" Often these are less problematic; we can make some plausible assumptions about what values people *do* have, and say something to the effect, implicitly, of "assuming, as is true for almost everyone, that you want to be energetic, mobile, and feeling good on a day to day basis and into old age, exercise is indeed vital." Nonetheless prescriptions like these often sort of "cheat" by presenting a strategy as an unalloyed good, and leave out a specific person's desires, and especially their constraints. Once again, it is simply *incorrect* to say "this is a choice that should be made irrespective of all goals." That said, notions like "goals" and "values" can often be myopic or shallow. These can change, and changes are often regarded as "truer" or "better." I think there's a lot of real substance to this, and that there's big questions here. I talk about this in depth in the last major section of this book. More detail on the metaphysics of empirical and evaluative claims There's a useful sense in which "empirical" claims are contiguous with evaluative statements. I would say here that one's ontology is convolved with one's goals or values. The notion here is that there is no sense in which an ontology can be defined, or maybe "would be defined," absent some values. More confidently, in at least *most* cases an ontology and some goals are defined together at once, so whether something "is" a member of a category has mostly to do with what you're using that category for. In this sense, still, there's in most contexts at least a meaningful difference of degree between most empirical and evaluative claims, where the axis in which they vary is something like "how commonly shared the ontology is"—which even for empirical claims obviously is seldom 100% among humans, and sometimes quite a bit less. Again, in addition, see no universally compelling arguments. Modern psychiatric diagnosis is of course the standard counterexample here of what's presented as though it were ontologically straightforward, like *most* medical diagnoses, but is highly convolved with a specific set of goals, namely treatment, primarily pharmacological, and usually defined in terms of "difficulty coping" or similar. To be clear, I actually think the DSM (the standard diagnostic manual in the US) is doing a pretty good job here, given the various constraints and pressures. I think the main problem with psychiatric diagnoses are people who think they're something they aren't. (IIRC in Quine's work there's another expression of a very similar distinction, namely of observations being "theory-laden.") In this sense, my point that evaluative claims without an evaluative function are meaningless (really, a type error) also applies to empirical claims; we would have to say something like "under this epistemology" to be more absolute in our empirical claims. Indeed, I've sort of already said as much, that the epistemology we use affects what we think is real and true. Still, there's obviously a pretty large difference of degree between empirical and evaluative claims. Maybe I can't say "speaking an evaluative claim as though it were empirical is a type error" but nonetheless, I'm going to put my foot down and say that conflating the two is confused and often harmful. I think, given a shared frame, that it's broadly fine to make evaluative claims authoritatively, but that in domains where the evaluative function is contested, speaking as though the evaluative function is definite, or shared among all speakers, or actually just-as-real as empirical truths, is a kind of metaphysical and memetic harm. I also discuss how these harms are perpetuated. Finally, I'll talk later in more detail about the sense of empirical truth that I use and think is broadly helpful and appropriate, as well as limitations of that model. (And, for what it's worth, I end up endorsing a kind of weak epistemic and ontological anti-realism.) ### Moral Moral claims are a confusing point, and I'm not sure where I stand on them. In a meaning-reductionist view, moral rightness is purely just an evaluative claim; I'm not fully on this side. Part of the emotional, imaginal, and memetic power of moral claims comes from them being made absolutely. Taking morality purely as object often makes it thin and tawdry. Nonetheless I believe that morality is a property of minds, and not of the mind-external universe, despite the claims of many religious traditions, and even some secular moral realists. (Relatedly, see no universally compelling arguments.) Briefly: moral realism is from my perspective usually something like eternalist window-dressing on real, legitimate, and vital moral sensibility. In any case, moral truths strike one as more important and less flexible than optimization, efficacy, or beauty—and certainly not just a matter of personal opinion or taste. Murder is wrong! Rape is wrong! Torture is wrong! (I'm pretty sure I really mean that. I've never witnessed these things myself but I'm pretty confident that if I saw them in front of me, I would be very disturbed, regardless of whether I would have the courage to do anything.) But, there's moral contention! Many people in the world have believed, and still believe, that homosexual sex is evil, while many people in the liberal west thing it's just fine. And so on for countless other examples. For now, I'll say, I still think that strictly speaking these are evaluative claims, and are constrained in their "objectivity" (read, maybe: "pure inescapability") in the same sorts of ways. I also think that this doesn't actually need to weaken their emotional weight, at least in general. (Often it does in particular, for moral claims that have been taken as more real than they ought to have.) I'll say as well, there's moral change if not moral progress. There's at least maturity, attunment, and alignment with one's deeper truth. The obstructions to our virtue and goodness can be cleared, and we can have truer apprehension of what is good and right. I think some moral anti-realists refuse this—I don't, and I think moral growth and moral insight are real and important, I just don't place them in an eternalism. I'll discuss at much greater length how metaphysics relates to and interacts with various kinds of moral claims. Among other things I talk about why believing that morality exists in minds doesn't necessarily imply or require moral nihilism. What should moral realists take from this? For died-in-the-wool moral realists, there's a few points I'll stress: 1. It's not clear *which* domains of evaluative claims are under the purview of your ultimate moral reality. Obviously we've come and gone on this point culturally, eg. regarding apostasy, lots of details of sexual ethics in particular, capital punishment, etc. Maybe you can say "indeed, there's some moral uncertainty, but certainly murder is wrong." I'll grant you that, but this brings us to the next point: 2. Even if we assume moral realism, you *still* have to demonstrate that any particular moral claim is true. Furthermore, the means by which we do moral investigation and discernment are mostly the same anyhow, namely introspection and debate. I have the same apparatus for ascertaining moral truth whether moral realism is true or not, my mind and my heart. So then, we're largely back where we started: there's moral uncertainty, and the metaphysics is ambiguous and difficult to determine, except insofar as you believe you have perfect gnosis of moral truth. (Some may or may not want to count prayer as separate from introspection. Separately, even if your moral epistemology rests on a textual tradition, there's still an enormous amount of moral uncertainty due to hermeneutic problems, in which case the above still applies. If you think your epistemology and tradition of biblical interpretation are unassailable, then I suppose I can't convince you of much.) 3. Everything not covered by your moral theory is subject to the limitations of evaluative claims in principle that I've laid out. You can't *really* trick someone into not wanting something that they do, at most you can either bully them into denying their own feelings, even to themselves, *or* you can cause them to notice what's good or bad about something, using their own discernment. ## Opinions, matters of taste, and ways of seeing One of the important questions in judging some claim will often be "is this domain, or this type of evidence or argument, applicable to the kind or degree of rightness being claimed?" For example, some questions are really a matter of taste. Or, even if there is an "objective" structure which distinguishes one thing from another, like that something is more complex, precisely tuned, or difficult to achieve, *still* you might just actually enjoy the simpler thing more, and your preferences can't meaningfully be said to be "wrong." I would say that a nearby category would be ways of seeing. I wouldn't call these a *matter of taste*, but it seems like, various *consistent* ways of seeing, while powerful and deeply felt, can't really be distinguished as "wrong" or "right," but more like "helpful," or "appropriate," or "clarifying." This obviously confuses matters even more about moral claims. I still have intuitions along the lines of "no, murder really is wrong, that's not just my feelings"—but this is a real question for me. However, there are cultures and legal systems in which eg. honor killings are acceptable and legal. I'm mostly fine with saying that they're wrong too, but it's often not clear what really counts in here, and I still don't think we are able to determine or adjudicate this meaningfully. # (Mis)use of Language and Rhetoric, re Rightness There's a common kind of rhetorical trick, in which someone sneaks an evaluative claim in, like "a wolf in sheep's clothes," as though it were certain and absolute. They then carry on to convince those listening of something which they couldn't argue for if it were clear that this claim isn't *true* in the same way, or with the same force as *stabler* kinds of truth. Colloquially there are quite a few different words that are used to refer to different kinds of evaluative statments. From a technical perspective, a musical performance might be described as "wrong" or "poor," variously on the basis of strict adherence to the specification (the written piece of music) and of the performance's expressiveness, beauty, etc. Optimality and fitness often take quite a few adjectives, eg. "beautiful," "delicious", or for that matter "sexy," but also of course just "good" or "best." Strategic fitness in particular is often described as "right" (as in, "the right choice"), "smart" (same) or "effective." "True," even when used consistently, means something fairly different for mathematical claims as it does for empirical ones. We also commonly use the words "right" and "wrong," though never "false" or "incorrect," to describe evil, sins, or moral failings. Again, without becoming needlessly pedantic, we can *notice* that there are differences between different kinds of language for different kinds of rightness, and that words have a prototypical meaning. **I think that one can "cheat" rhetorically by using one set of language which brings in intuitions about the strength and stability of one kind of rightness to bolster a different kind of claim.** Furthermore, I'd say this isn't just about manipulative rhetoric, often the language a broad culture uses to describe one kind of *rightness* implicitly conflates it with another, eg. "this is the truth" (of a spiritual teaching). Evaluative claims are often spoken with the same tone and language as empirical or logical claims, and as though they had the same "inescapability." There are contexts in which you can reasonably say "these are pretty much just the facts of the matter," which serve to say, ostensibly, "you ought to be compelled to believe this, due to the kind and strength of evidence for it." I believe it is usually inappropriate to present evaluative claims as though they have this same kind of compelling force. I think people are sensitive to this kind of ruse only *to some extent*. I see quite a lot rhetoric, broadly in the context of morality and values, which makes this move and meets with no open objection. I'll make here a moral claim: in the same way that it's wrong to deceive someone about some *facts*, whether by straightforward falsehood or by manipulative rhetoric, it's also wrong to cause them to believe evaluative claims using the sorts of rhetorical abuses I've described. Insofar as you respect the discernment, autonomy, and agency of the people you're speaking to, you should make evaluative claims transparently, and let people decide on their own two feet. Now, there's nuance, and there are exceptions. The more that a frame is shared within some community, or the more that there's effectively consensus about what evaluative functions to use, the less it matters if we leave the evaluative functions out when making evaluative claims. It would be ridiculous to call it "rhetorically abusive" for a religious order, within its own community, to simply have shared assumptions about what is good and right. Nonetheless I think there's something pernicious about the "unknown knowns" of ideology and metaphysics, where the entire evaluative frame remains tacit, even if it's not contentious. And then, what should we do when the evaluative frame *is* contested? Descriptively, when talking to others that one trusts and respects, people will generally surface the evaluative function as contentious. "In my opinion," "I've been told that," "the experts say x, but I'm not sure," and so on. I don't have a smack-down argument, but my sense here is that insofar as we want to cultivate a productive, healthy discourse, this kind of nuance and openness with respect to ambiguity and contention is broadly what we should be striving for. (I'll also say, there's some rabbit hole here about socializing children, for which I just don't have an answer. One way or another, children will absorb moral intuitions, some of this is embodied and demonstrated, but a lot of it is also taught explicitly, and it seems pretty much impossible to try to teach precepts to children in a way that's nuanced with respect to a broader cultural discourse.) One last piece: often people conflate, implicitly or explicitly, different kinds of evaluative claims. In particular often claims about what strategies are effective end up transmitted culturally in terms of morality, obligation, and sin. I'm thinking here about many people's relationship to exercise, diet, parenting, "financial health," etc. This will also be an important distinction to keep in mind when we talk about spiritual practice. ## Taking a specific example: confusions regarding aesthetics *First: the point here is to say, "here's a nuanced case of misunderstanding the role and strength of certain kinds of evaluative claims." When we get to talking about spiritual truth later, I'll return to this question, of what kinds of *truth* and *correctness* apply when talking about morality, goodness, spiritual teachings, etc.* In music we have the concept of a "wrong note." A piece of music, as written or as transmitted in an oral tradition, defines a particular sequence of notes for certain lengths of time, and of course people constantly make mistakes and simply play a different note than what is expected. This sense of "wrong" is fine enough, and indeed in many contexts in music we just want to play the piece as written, or at least as written and interpreted within the bounds of the tradition. In fact in those contexts everyone will basically agree as to what "wrong" means, and what counts as a "wrong" note. However, this evaluative function is only suitable in some contexts and not others. In jazz, many of the rules are relaxed, not into chaos but into a denser and richer structure. You will literally find jazz musicians saying that there's no such thing as a wrong note. In jazz improvization, if you play a wrong note, you can just about always recover it into a "right" note, with enough skill. Separately, much of the history of Western classical music, from Bach until Schoenberg in the early 20th century was a progressive elaboration and *subversion* of established structures. Most of the classical composers you know made their name by doing things that were "wrong" at the time, in tasteful and beautiful ways. This tendency can get arbitrarily wacky, see again Schoenberg's atonal work, free jazz, microtonal music, and even harsh noise. Here's a marvelous quote on the subject from Plato: Thus their folly led them unintentionally to slander their profession by the assumption that in music there is no such thing as a right and a wrong, the right standard of judgment being the pleasure given to the hearer, be he high or low. By compositions of such a kind and discourse to the same effect, they naturally inspired the multitude with contempt of musical law, and a conceit of their own competence as judges. It seems obvious to me that there's something quite confused about this take. Maybe we can argue about good or bad taste, but "right" and "wrong" (note that another translation gives "as a thing without any standard of correctness") don't even *make sense* to me to apply to music. I would say that the goodness or rightness of music is a "matter of taste," that there *isn't going to be* something like a "right" answer, in the way that we find with mathematical or empirical claims. This is a nice example to dig into because, I expect, almost everyone reading this will agree that Plato is doing something confused here. This is not just to say that he's mistaken about some empirical fact, but that his metaphysics is deeply confused, and perhaps *wrong*. (Even if you believe that some people just have atrocious taste in music, it's still hard to argue that music can be "right" or "wrong" in a very strong sense here. If you disagree, imagine, as an example, if someone said that burritos were "wrong." Fine as hyperbole, but if this is said fully in earnest, clearly it's gotten something *wrong* metaphysically.) More generally, we can ask, "in this domain, what kind of rightness do we observe?" In particular if we're concerned with evaluative claims, again, "what kind?" Is this a matter of taste? Is this about what choices are strategic, given some set of goals, but where the goals are "up to" each person? Do we believe that something is good or bad in a more stable sense, like morality (if we believe in morality as stable at all)? To be clear, even in the weakest sense, to say that something is a *matter of taste* is not to say that it *doesn't matter*. A piece of music might be utterly lovely or even gobsmacking, even if I'm confident in saying that I'm no more "right" in finding it so than the people who don't, or that anyone can be "compelled by the evidence" to find it lovely, the way that they ought to be *compelled* by a mathematical argument. # "Real" Quite a lot of jousting goes back and forth about what is "real." I will claim that the determination of some phenomenon as "real" is often a stand-in for questions like "does x matter," or "should we pay x any mind." Furthermore, I'll claim that the fact of the matter is nuanced enough that often whether something is "real" doesn't *really* help us answer these questions. ### *How an algorithm feels from inside* and *disguised queries* I'll bring in two concepts from Eliezer: how an algorithm feels from inside, and disguised queries. Most concepts are nebulous, but still track real structure in the world. Human intuitions about membership in a category often construct membership as an *extra fact*, besides all of the facts about an object's properties. In the proverbial "if a tree falls in the forest, but no one is around to hear it," there are two properties which are normally tightly correlated, namely an event causing acoustic vibration, and it causing aural perception/experience, that have been decorrelated. This question is sort of about asking, "but did it really make a sound?" as though there were a question left to ask, besides the two component phenomena. Yes vibrations, no perception, simple as. To be clear, I don't think anyone is actually vexed by this question, but it's helpful to lay it out very precisely, because indeed I see this exact mistake being made with respect to this class of problem in general. Another example: are viruses alive, or for that matter prions? Viruses do not have a metabolism and can't reproduce outside of a host, but do contain genetic material, and do evolve. Prions are much simpler, they are misolded forms of ordinary proteins, they don't contain genetic material, and they only reproduce by causing normal proteins to misfold. Again, we might ask, "but are viruses really alive?", as though there were a meaningful answer to this question, beyond the facts of which properties they have in common with most kinds of life, and which they don't. We can construct a category in such a way that marginal cases are strictly speaking not members, but we haven't really *learned* anything by this. There is a large diversity of observed biological systems, and gerrymandering "life" to exclude some of them hasn't told us anything new about the ones we excluded, nor would it to arbitrarily choose to include them. In Eliezer's explanation, his claim is that we might imagine choosing one algorithm (or really, data structure) or another to represent some concept, and that the intuitions that humans have, in which this "but is it really?" question arises, would happen in some kinds of representations and not others. As well, these kinds of ontological intuitions are constructed in his view out of cognitive algorithms, and that the intuitions are "what the algorithm feels like from inside of it." Eliezer's claim in *Disguised Queries* is that questions like "is x in category y" are often stand-ins for "is x dangerous," or "is x reasonable," or "is x important." A category is presumably predictive of some other properties, besides those that define the category. Often people will haggle over whether x should be included in a category, *in order* to be able to determine that we should infer some other property about x. For example, we could (well, at least in principle) imagine someone trying to argue that Gandhi was a criminal—which is absolutely true, strictly speaking! Of course, our imagined speaker here is really trying to argue that Gandhi was dangerous, or immoral, or whatever. This is a silly example, but this is *absolutely* a move that people make with respect to categories like racism, violence, and terrorism. These kinds of questions are called "disguised queries," since the real question which is being debated is disguised by a question about where to draw a boundary. Let's assume, though we don't necessarily need to assume this, that the reality described by physics is stably "real" in a straightforward sense. I'll make a few claims: - There's a fairly large diversity of phenomena which we call "real" (or at least which we *regard* as real) that are ontologically very different from physical reality. - Many of the details of physics are quite counterintuitive, and the deepest questions about what's "real" are still contentious in physics. - Physical solidity (as in, of wood or stone or bone) is quite a bit subtler and stranger than ordinary human-scale intuitions about "solid matter", though my understanding is that the popsci schtick that matter is "mostly empty" is somewhere between oversimplified and false. - Famously, the cosmological interpretation of quantum mechanics is *still* contentious even in academic physics. Furthermore, both interpretations currently in the ring get openly metaphysical, and in either case are quite contrary to day-to-day intuition. - I don't believe that there's an account of what's "real" which includes far-flung notions like romantic love, money, status, mathematics, or music, that doesn't also end up including a pretty wide swath of meditative and spiritual experiences. - Perhaps, we can hypothesize various grades, or at least a diversity of disjoint types of *reality*, which is broadly the stance I like, but then we end up with "real" as something either much weaker or much narrower than people usually want it to be. (Also, gosh, wtf, *multiple realities?* Is that really how far we've stooped?) - In any case, this doesn't really help, because there still doesn't end up being space to argue that all this spiritual stuff is just "not real." I want to be very clear here: I am not claiming that nothing is real, or that reality is completely socially constructed, or that everything which we call "real" has the *same* ontological status. I am claiming that "real" is both nuanced enough and diverse enough ontologically that it *must* admit spiritual experiences, one way or another. And what about this assumption that physics is real? Look, if we're going to throw that out then you're just *really* screwed. More seriously, if we don't assume a basis of reality like "physics," then whatever sense of reality we're working with is yet weaker, and so my broad take is even stronger. I suppose this obviously leaves out gnostics, or various "mind-only" or "mind-first" metaphysicses. I'm not really writing for those people, but in any case I think they're already going to agree with some claim like "reality is more nuanced and ontologically fussy than modern secular metaphysics would like." Let's take some specific problematic cases: - **Math**: There have been a variety of theories with respect to the ontological status of mathematics, over millenia. Math seems both more inescapable than physics, but also completely intangible. We can *imagine* (and, it's now often hypothesized) worlds with different laws of physics, but we largely *can't* imagine "worlds" with different arithmetic, or calculus, or topology. - **Music**: Is music real?—sorry, wait what? Since when is music even the kind of thing that can be real?—well, we care about music, we devote quite a lot of economic productivity to it, we argue about what music is right, and some people dedicate their lives to the practice of it. For most people it's often much more salient and powerful than math or history or certainly theories of physics. On the other hand, it's not quite like most things we would ordinarily call "real." It's just sounds, often without words, in some pattern, how could that matter? How could that possible mean anything? - **Love**: Yes yes, "true love" and all that; but in any case, once again, is love real? What would it mean for it to be "real"? Sometimes people feel bamboozled or manipulated by love, and there's certainly deception and fraud presented as though it were love. On the other hand, love, whether romantic, familial, love of one's country, etc., seems like one of the most important forces in world. People will give their lives for it, they'll work themselves to the bone for it, etc. etc. etc. Love is also richly imaginal: tied into fantasy, imagery, and elaboration that are both *more* salient, powerful, and motivating than what's actually in front of our faces, but also never quite present "in the here and now." - **Money**: The value of money is certainly "rational" in a clear sense: macroeconomic shenanigans aside, you can generally expect that you will find a counterparty willing to accept your dollars for most kinds of transactions. Still, money isn't quite just "made out of physics," or at least not *just* physics. There's a large, only-somewhat-centralized cooperation in the construction of a coordination mechanism, which relies on expectation across the network that the rest of the network will continue to exist, and continue to behave largely the same. Of course, money is quite real! Money is incredibly salient and powerful, almost anywhere in the world. So we have both a very high degree of indirection, and something to the effect of "social construction," which is meanwhile quite "real," in the sense of "important, and worth worrying about." So, again, if a tree falls in the forest, but there's no one around to hear it, is it real?—sorry, again, there's a variety of properties, some in common with other things which we take as real, some not, and no extra fact about whether it's *actually* real. ## Ontological and spiritual commitments An ontology, among other things, serves as the framework through which we understand what exists, and what *can matter at all*. Descriptively, most people have commitments to particular ontologies: moving from one ontology to another often inspires a fear that what one now understands to be real and will become meaningless, wrong, or harmful, and vice versa. This is often correct! One metaphysics will often, in fact, reify or valorize notions which are fake or irrelevant in another. These kinds of ontological commitments might be made by way of organized religions, ideologies and philosophies, or may be cultural and implicit, idiosyncratic, and even completely unspoken. Some examples would be things like reductionist materialism, Karma, Heaven and Hell, souls and spirits, and even persistent personal identity. To be clear: this list is not to say "these are utter nonsense, and everything that flows from them is wrong." Rather, mostly I want to inspire some sort of ontological flexibility and a skepticism of over-reified systems of metaphysics. (Still, as an empirical claim about cosmology, I'm pretty confident that Heaven and Hell are not real.) Most of the point here is to say, a. that the ontologies that people use are largely *unjustified* (though in the next section I'll get to why this is so hard), and b. that in general, these domains are nebulous enough that there isn't going to be a singular, stable ontology on which to build all of our theories of what matters or is worthwhile. The naive view which says "physics!" or "science!" in response to questions of ontological nebulosity simply can't make these problems go away. But, still, there are things which aren't real! Certainly, there are lies, and there are dreams, and there are hopes that do not come true. Often, scientism and atheism maintain a commitment that entertaining many ways of seeing is "wrong", since these are "not real." Except, again, a. what's real, but more importantly, b. how have you determined that the collection of ways of seeing that you use are correct, or the only ones that should be used? Now, my real question is: what should we make of both claims and experiences of prayer, meditation, psychedelics, mysticism, etc.? I think these are real questions, I mostly don't have a clear answer. One of the main claims of this book is something like, "actually, I still don't have a clear answer, but it's definitely not any of these." Note that I'm not claiming that eg. those who report talking to God are definitely talking to a persistant physical being etc. etc. Mostly, I think these experiences often have very substantial existential value, and can't be excluded. However, determining which are baloney and which are actually worthwhile is much harder. I discuss this more later. (Though, I do have a very small probability on some spiritual reports having a straightforwardly literal ontological/cosmological interpretation. Again, I discuss this more later.) I'll note, that if I say, "well, there's something interesting going on metaphysically with respect to spiritual stuff," this isn't yet to say that you should regard it as important or valuable, but just to say that it can't be flatly determined to be not real, just by writing it out of your map. I'll discuss this all in much more detail in the section on spirituality and spiritual practice. ### "Real" and "True" One last bit here: I'll claim that "true" is nuanced in basically the same sorts of ways as "real" above. What's true? Just mathematical theorems? What about very high confidence predictions, from scientific theories? What about just *high* confidence predictions? And, which theories, or is it mostly about their being socially acceptable, and endorsed by the current priesthood? What methods are even acceptable for determining what's true? What does it mean, if anything, for introspective or spiritual claims to be true? # Metaphysical Disagreement and Determination There's quite a lot of disagreement about metaphysics in general, if not explicitly by that name, and about subjects downstream of metaphysics. I've perhaps *never* seen productive discussion about these topics. I have some ideas about why. Some claims in this section: 1. Metaphysics matters. 1. It matters if you're wrong about metaphysics. 1. We do not have frameworks for doing metaphysical discernment, either personally or communally. 1. This should give us pause. ## Metaphysics matters I've already said this in the introduction to this chapter, but I'll elaborate on it some here. Large classes of beliefs are downstream of metaphysical ones. These beliefs might be professed, or carefully reflected upon, or just simple and grounded and so intuitive that they're completely invisible. This really matters: **these beliefs determine our seeing, feeling, and acting in the world.** Metaphysics is also not optional. There is no neutral perspective which is totally agnostic of metaphysics. One has a metaphysics, or at least some vague collection of metaphysical intuitions, whether one would like to or not. In fact, if you didn't have a metaphysics, you would be unable to learn, to infer, or to want. Even some of the wackier pie-in-the-sky consequences of various metaphysical systems are relevant to your ordinary life and experience: most likely you want to keep living tomorrow, and you wouldn't want an alien to take over your body, or for your body to keep operating but for your conscious experience to end. You also probably expect that your life will end, likely after less than a century, but even if you expect human life extension to succeed, then you still probably expect that your consciousness will end at least due to heat death of the universe. Both transhumanism/futurism and Buddhism have claims that affect all of these, and one way or another you have to grapple with that, even if just to say "eh, I'm not gonna take this seriously, don't bother me about it." If personal identity is confused or not real, that matters enormously. If rebirth is true, that matters enormously. Conditional on cryonics and mind upload succeeding, those matter enormously for how you live your life today. As philosophical or empirical claims, you can dismiss these, but you can't claim that the metaphysics of minds, for example, is irrelevant or not real. (Personal identity is probably the strongest one here, since it matters on a moment-by-moment basis, not just some decades from now when you die.) Metaphysics is also very mundane. Though we highlight metaphysics mostly when it gets wacky, it's also just part of the warp and weft of ordinary experience. More saliently, also, metaphysics is especially fundamental (if subliminal) in the ways we understand the value and purpose both of our own lives and of all life, the universe, etc. Lastly, lots of object-level debates often have upstream disagreements about metaphysics. Some obvious examples here would be abortion and trans rights. To a decent extent these debates can be understood as mostly being symbolic contentions between two tribes, *however* there I think are real disagreements about the metaphysics of life and birth, and of gender and sex. Both of these are inherently nebulous, and each side has declared a determined, correct metaphysics here, while mostly not surfacing the metaphysical questions here, as such. #### Weakly contra the Durkheimian hypothesis I'll discuss this more later, but briefly: one hypothesis which we might have for stories about cosmology, value, truth, etc., is that they mostly serve as loci of social coordination. In this hypothesis, we might say that both the ostensible epistemic content (the specific claims about the world) and the axiological content of religious and mythological stories is sort of "beside the point," and instead these exist to provide a story about which a community can agree, and which can be used as a basis for people to understand their roles and responsibilities, for them to come to consensus, and to strengthen their social bonds. We might also want to say that there are lots of equally functional stories about what's good and right, at least at the level of high-level social outcomes. I think this is only partially correct. I'd say, yes, to a large extent the epistemic content is arbitrary, and on some important dimensions you'll probably get similar outcomes for a wide range of metaphysices, or at least that most of the variance is not explained by the metaphysics. However, the metaphysics a society uses still has real consequences on outcomes we care about, and certainly on apparently psychological weighty subjects. We might imagine one culture which says that its warriors will be remembered for their glory and honor, or another which says that they will live forever in heaven. Perhaps they both have similar levels of social cohesion, and similar levels of bravery from their soldiers. But come on, obviously I personally should care if I actually expect to live forever in heaven as reward for my valor—and in any case I should be seriously questioning if it's good to incentivize war at all. I'd also say that the extreme perspective in this direction is a kind of nihilism: human beliefs and moral intuitions are really just selected for reproductive success, and locally speaking are socially incentivized to align with some or another power structure, so why are they meaningful at all? What obligation do I have to any moral expectations? Again I will discuss this more later, but briefly I'd say: you almost certainly don't actually believe this. You still don't want to die, you still want love and safety, and you'd still be horrified at seeing yourself and your family tortured. On the other hand, some kind of "meaning maximalism" is probably also wrong. Sometimes, those particular inclined to consistency and piety will draw out all of the consequences of a metaphysics and take them deadly seriously. I'm thinking here of everything from Anarchists to Jihadists to Effective Altruists. I think this ends up biting the bullet on all kinds of mundane value and meaning that we probably shouldn't want to throw out. One take here is that a metaphysical claims and stances are more heuristic than absolute. The point being, they can stand for a sort of considerations, without being "taken literally." For example: often we plainly talk about something being "bad for your soul", without really worrying about the metaphysics, to correctly point at a worthwhile set of considerations for what might also be called "moral injury" etc. I like this take, but I still think this doesn't really solve the problem. We actually still have the same question, namely, how do we apply some big collection of lossy heuristics to themselves, to arrive at even just *better* or *worse* answers for pressing questions and tradoffs. This is still very difficult and confusing. ### What does it matter if you're wrong? With some caveats, I think it matters quite a bit if you're wrong about metaphysics, for various senses of "wrong." First, some ways in which it matters less: My impression is that by default cultures broadly, and people individually, don't develop a very sophisticated metaphysics. In my thin reading of anthropology, and particularly the anthropology of religion, it seems like the criteria for admission into a folk metaphysics are something like, "is it resonant," "is it simple enough that the culture can transmit it," and "does it not grate too much against existing sensibilities." Shooting from the hip, it seems like almost all folk metaphysicses I've ever read about are unsophisticated in ways that generally rhyme with one another. Folk metaphysicses are also often blatantly inconsistent, or they consist of some funny hodgepodge of systems which explicitly contradict each other, eg. many local shamanic systems in Latin Americae which overlap culturally with Catholicism, or the same more marginally with Islam. Even many attempts at careful, systematic metaphysicses often contain straightforward logical errors. And yet, the world goes on, people go about their lives, and society remains moderately functional—with whatever problems there are smelling more like "politics" or "economics" or "violence" than metaphysics. We might also say, "look, there's lots of ways of coordinating society, every society will think itself *good*, and often *the best*, why quibble over their stories about ultimate value?" Or perhaps, "So, lots of people believe funny things, they pray to funny gods, but they're mostly having a good time, so what does it matter?" More strongly, we might also say, "even when people have been killed ostensibly due to religious differences, probably this has more to do human tribes warring than it does anyone's professed metaphysics." I think this these are all right, and nonetheless I think you still can't get away from metaphysics mattering. As long as you still care about death, as long as you still care about whether your experience is real and not a dream, or as long as you feel that torture or rape are abhorrent, you still care about metaphysics! (Or at least, you are about distinctions which are downstream of metaphysics, and so therefore in some sense you also "automatically" care about the upstream considerations.) Insofar as you believe in and care about things which would be repudiated by a different metaphysics, **you must care about your metaphysics, and you must care about getting your metaphysics "right,"** since indeed the contradictory metaphysics must be something to the effect of "wrong." ## Metaphysical discernment and determination I am not aware of any frameworks or models which allow one to meaningfully investigate and come to determination about metaphyiscs. Even for a person working privately and only trying to figure out what's right, I'm aware of no process of metaphysical discernment which converges to consistent and correct answers across different people, in the way that math or empirical disciplines can. (That is, without effectively just picking the answer from the outset.) Looking at the diversity of systems of metaphysics around, I don't see any way for them to interface, to be falsified, or to find concrete points of disagreement which could cause a believer to change their mind. This is partly because metaphysical beliefs are often unjustified, or worse *unjustifiable*, but also because the domains of metaphysics are inherently quite nebulous. I'll go through each of the domains and describe some places where what seems clearly defined becomes hazy and confused. I want to be clear that in each domain of metaphysics, I don't believe that metaphysical nebulosity lets you get away with whatever you like. My main argument here is that if you look carefully, with an eye for nebulosity, the parts that are actually pinned down are frustratingly narrow, and that just about everything that relates to meaning and value is left flailing. Furthermore, all of these flailing pieces are *most of what really matters*, and we don't have frameworks for trying to inspect on intuitions and reflect, which would allow us to arrive at anything like *correct* or *satisfying* answers. I haven't seen a presentation of a particular metaphysics which doesn't end up saying much more than just "because I said so." #### Cosmology This might seem the most concrete, empirical, falsifiable, and stable, but still I think there are problems and a frustrating amount of nuance. There are indeed stars in the night sky, there's red-shift, there's the cosmic microwave background, and there are modern theories of cosmogenesis, the many-worlds interpretation, and even Tegmark's Mathematical Universe Hypothesis. These range from flat, undeniable, and plain-to-the-naked-eye, to highly indirect but still well substantiated, to speculative and unfalsifiable. Modern cosmology, for whatever uncertainty there is at the highest level, is presented as basically empirical and well substantiated, and broadly as having made traditional, pre-scientific cosmologies completely obsolete. However, cosmology in almost all cultures (as I understand) has functioned less as an empirical theory of a natural phenomenon, as it has as a *story* to structure the place of humans in the universe, our responsibilities to each other, and our responsibilities to the symbols and sacred principles of a given society. I would call this the *imaginal* (yes, not *imaginary*) aspect of cosmology. Another way to say this is that the imaginal aspect of cosomology conveys ways of seeing which are often tightly integrated with the rest of a metaphysics. To be clear, the traditional imaginal stuff is often stupid, insane, and harmful—I'm not being a naive hippy, saying "ah yes you should trust all traditional religious systems, they contain deep wisdom that the hyper-rational west has lost." I'm also not saying that it doesn't matter that the ostensible epistemic content is wrong. The distinction I'm making here is that, descriptively, cosmologies have *mostly* been about the imaginal aspect, rather than a concrete empirical theory. Indeed, the stars couldn't be interacted with, and until about the 16th century couldn't really be inspected more closely, besides perhaps tracking the planets carefully, or recording comets. Nor, for that matter, can we really "do" much even with modern scientific cosmology. Even modern scientific cosmologies still do have imaginal consequences, though exactly what is not clear. Sometimes this gets turned into stories like "we are the universe understanding itself", and sometimes it's something like "we are puny and irrelevant and the universe is fundamentally uncaring." Another cluster of popular modern ones have the shape of a kind of futurist manifest destiny. In any case, the empirical claims will sort of "automatically" be used to construct an imaginal world. Often they are much more than that: if you watch the TV show *Cosmos* (either the original or the new ones), astronomy and scientific cosmology is taught by way of the hagiographies of famous scientists. There's awe, and glory, and maybe even sacredness in it; the cosmos stands for the valorization (and justification) of scientism. I'm not going to contest the actual empirical claims of scientific cosmology, though I do wish that popular discourse was more conscious of the uncertainty *in the discipline* of a lot of these models. The real question to ask here is: **what story should we tell about the history and fate of the universe, and our place in it?** As I'll be asking throughout this book: what ought we want to valorize? What ought we censure? Note that this is not really about nebulosity with respect to the actual empirical claims as it is about meaning. Whatever certainty the relevant physics and astronomy support doesn't help us answer these questions. Furthermore, I don't think that ways of seeing can really be said to be "right," rather than they might be helpful or miserable or lovely. I would say also that the imaginal aspect is in many ways more important than the empirical aspect. Most people, insofar as they care about cosmology at all, do not care about specific models of physics but indeed mostly about how it makes them feel, and what story they feel that they're embedded in. Even the most staunch atheist can't really *escape* the imaginal consequences of their cosmology, as an important part of how their narrative world is structured, among other packages of meaning and narrative as well. I would say also that some traditional cosmologies often have a fair bit besides bathwater in them, and I think secularism has probably too hastily rejected all of them. Now you might say, "wait, but you just said it matters if it's wrong, but now you're saying it sort of doesn't matter if the cosmology isn't really literally true?" I would say, yeah, it maybe doesn't matter if a cosmology is correct as in "literally true", and so it would perhaps less so be "wrong" as "harmful" or "bad." But then, perhaps moreso, it surely matters if our cosmology is wholesome, and helpful, rather than harmful or destructive. #### Ontology As with the others, ontological nebulosity doesn't let you go full Humpty Dumpty. Of course, in principle, you could define words however you like, and you could lump together this or that category, but it still wouldn't cause there to be some real structure in common with those. Often, we might start out with some set of intuitions about what kinds of things exist, and then by investigating them more closely, it becomes obvious that our prior intuitions were confused, and that there isn't much negotiation that's really possible about whether the earlier folk models were correct. Some obvious examples here might be the germ theory of disease, or the atomic structure of matter. But, very much, most categories are really more like messy clusters, and our intuitions, whether they're "baked in" biologically (eg. lots of brain structures for identifying human faces) or learned, often balk or throw up their hands when faced with the complexity in the actual domain. This often matters quite a bit: when is a person alive, or dead? (Is this person really a woman?) Again I would stress here that an ontology is a property of a model, or a view, rather than a property of the domain, perhaps (with some nuanced) with the exception of whatever phenomena are really "at the bottom" of physics. I'd mostly like to avoid openly political subjects, but of course I have to talk here about gender. A popular argument from the pro-trans side (leaving aside that 20 years ago public-facing pro-trans rhetoric was mostly pesudobiological and gender binary-ist, "born this way," "female brain," etc.) has been that even biological sex is pretty nebulous. To my understanding, as a matter of biological fact, even if you wanted to construct a totally gender-essentialist, binary-ist ontology, there are still quite a few edge cases in the real domain, namely basically "intersex" people. (You could, on the other hand, just declare intersex people to be abominations, or even non-intersex trans people, and the actual biology doesn't preclude that.) Broadly, often, people like to assume that the ontology used by "scientists" is comprehensive, authoritative, and exclusive. Again you'll find this in medicine, you'll find it hawked in both directions with respect to gender discourse, genomics, intelligence research, economics, etc. Often these "scientific" ontologies are some weird amalgamation of a few generations of scientific theory, vague folk theory, and dumbed down explanations for public consumption. My impresison is that in many cases the real literature acknowledges quite a bit of nuance, despite what the general public thinks "the science" says. In any case, well, often an academic literature is just working from an oversimplified model, which may or may not be predictive, but which in any case is collapsing quite a bit of nebulosity. #### Epistemology I'll be yet stronger here: I think if you're failing with respect to the standards of epistemic rationality I think you're almost certainly wrong. I'll discuss this more, but broadly speaking, if your beliefs make predictions that are generally or usually wrong, those beliefs are again something like wrong. This can happen if you've made too strong of inferences on the basis of weak evidence, or if you've just made stuff up. And again, there have been debates about what counts as knowledge at least since ancient Greece, and while a lot of these arguments seem either confused or irrelevant, I'll claim that there are still some real questions here. A weaker point is that to some extent I think the debate about the many-worlds interpretation is really an epistemological question. My stronger claim is that I think we still don't really have epistemological theories that can account appropriately for gnosis. Briefly here: there are a number of different kinds of meditative experiences reported in different traditions, which are described variously as "waking up" (as though one's experience before had been a dream, or like sleep), or of awareness of an all-pervading consciousness, or also of knowledge of past lives, whether one's own or others. These experiences which are generally reported as revealing deep truths about reality or meaning, sometimes apparently straightforward and sometimes said to be ineffable. To be clear, some of this I think is bs, and some are probably falsified in the first place. However, a lot of these I think are probably *legitimate*, but very confusing to grapple with or to know what to do with, either from afar, or personally (from my very limited experience). #### Axiology This is where I'm most confused, and this is what most of this book is about. The last chapter of this book will discuss this all in detail, but briefly: I don't believe that we have any *explicit* principles in common for understanding what goodness is, and I think there are real gulfs between the notions of value in use across the world. Many cultures today think it's good and appropriate to beat children, to execute homosexuals, to practice self abnegation, to torture animals, to associate sexuality with taboo and shame, etc. etc. (Feel free to fill in whatever you would find horrifying, and conversely to fill in whatever *those* cultures would find horrifying about you.) There is a shallow modern liberal perspective which tries to ignore these sorts of differences in conceptions of value. I think this only works, insofar as it does, because immigrants mostly fairly quickly assimilate. I think most people don't quite understand cultural diversity and would often be horrified by lots of things that go on regularly in other cultures, just as they would likely be horrified at many things in your society. A person, embedded in a given culture, might be bothered by specific practices, or might chafe at this or that hierarchy, but seldom do we have the time and space to ask "ok, but what's actually good? what's *really* good here, and what's actually just a mess?" I'll claim broadly that our current configuration has very serious problems, and that it's very difficult to distinguish the *appearance* of cultural progress from status quo bias and cultural myopia. But also, it seems like there's love and beauty and lots of both mundane and transcendent goodness. I have a sense of what's probably the right direction here, but mostly a lot of uncertainty. Most of what I want to communicate in this book is a deep uncertainty about the nature of goodness, but without inclining towards nihilism. My thesis is basically, "there exists goodness, I feel very strongly about that, and still I'm quite uncertain what's really good." ### Communal metaphysical discernment Of course, if one can't come to determination privately, how can we communally? I actually have very little to say here. I'll discuss more about how I think ideas and values diffuse, and how they're negotiated culturally. What I would add here is, I think that in practice most people are just kind of muddling through, and that in some ways this can allow for a kind of "communal discernment," as ideas diffuse through a culture, but that this is subject more to constraints about memetic *fecundity* (that is, reproductive fitness) than constraints about deep goodness or rightness. # Culture, Trauma, and Memetics *In this chapter:* "Trauma" as a concept in general, a common shape of model about its causal structure, as well as important heuristic signals of trauma in others: - Trauma - The Structure of Trauma - Trauma Smells *Memetics* as the basic mechanism of cultural transmission, and some on the interaction between culture and trauma: - Memetics - Culture, Taboo, and Trauma Culture and memes as often burdensome psychologically, and difficult to shake off: - Burdens of Meaning